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Julie Dee's avatar

And I realise that for most people 5.30am in the morning or whatever stupid time I published this post is way too early to contemplate such matters, but such is my head early doors😂😂😂

Happy Friday 😍😘

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Christian Thompson's avatar

I don’t know where the quote comes from but, for me, it sets up a false opposition. Surely pain is the opposite of pleasure? Do purposeful people pursue pain? No, they take pleasure in their sense of purpose (have I just written a tongue twister?). I call for purposeful pleasure seeking.

The ancient Greeks were all over this, of course. Even the Hedonists recognised the inevitability of pain in the unbridled pursuit of pleasure (e.g. the hangover, the bloated gut) and saw the need for moderation. The Epicureans expanded on this by recognising that bodily pleasure has its limits. The highest form of sustained pleasure they could envisage was “friendship” (very different from Satre’s existentialist take that “Hell is other people”). Friendship doesn’t just fall into your lap. It takes effort and compromise and the Purpose to not permanently piss people off.

Yes, religions have stuck their oar in. Flood myths tend to be about building a strong foundation, an ark that can weather the storm (because there is always a storm). Deferred gratification as a survival tool. They’re not wrong - and they are also not necessarily saying you can’t take pleasure in building your ark or that you can’t learn to surfboard too. Some of them get a bit weird with the asceticism and self-flagellation, but they’re probably secretly enjoying it too so they’re still pleasure seeking, just with a dollop of dishonesty.

Pleasure is cool. It should never be guilty, but we should also be as purposeful as we can be, in order that our pursuit of pleasure does not cause undue pain to ourselves or others.

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