Yes, well l feel trapped because you have to phone to be seen by a doctor at 8 in the morning ,to be told by an alien, what number, you are, to be seen.When you reach one, you get cut off.Chem trails annoy me and how we are not free people we have no choice we have chemical water food and air.I feel sad for the young people who have suffered and God knows how many people they have killed.Politcians are rewarded for the damage they do.Its feeding the birds and stray cats that keep me sane . Julie l am with you in all you say.😊xxx.
Great to hear your thoughts on this. I am still digesting it. I hope it does some good but I'm afraid it may have unforeseen consequences. One thing I'm sure of, Keir Starmer has done this before he gets the boot with an eye on his "legacy". I think it's all about him.
I had a rather depressing conversation with someone at work... he feels its great to stop kids accessing SM and forever eyes to their phones.. 'Hmm I said, isn't that a parent's job' (while inwardly noting the irony as he himself has his eyes on his phone much of the time!)
Thankfully as you say, many are starting to see the pulleys and levers, just my co-worker today is not one of them x
yep my colleague among them unfortunately. I suspect it will drive a number of us off SM (if we are still on it!) ... how will the gov spread their propaganda to those, I wonder?!
Starmer is a sociopath with an ideology…a terrible combination and there’s no stopping him.
What’s really concerning is that his Party is allowing him to act unchallenged knowing that they will put themselves into the wilderness and unelectable for decades, if at all. They’ve learnt nothing about what happened to the Tories..
Maybe these awful MPs with no conscience will be quite content with earning £500,000+ for five years. They certainly wouldn’t have been capable of earning this money in any other job!
Apt metaphor with the screw - depressingly accurate. They put it some of the way in, feign a roll back, then, adopting another tactic, screw it all the way in. So what if we lose a few battles (like with digital ID?), we’ll win the war is the mindset. They are hellbent on creating a digital prison. Starmer et al have to follow a technocratic agenda. This documentary is worth a watch if you haven’t seen it on the technate, https://youtu.be/ZFHHOBiUrkg?si=HbTi_0ifasqKJU5m
Yes, I’m aware of the doc, I watched it last year. Sadly it’s not just Starmer, it’s a global thing. So many understand what is happening now but the convenience tech plays in our lives has made to difficult to shirk and that’s what they count on.
I had watched the doc once before but watched some of it again recently. It helped remind me that we’re dealing with a cult with all its attendant zealotry. Yes, the convenience is why people, especially the younger generation embrace it. In practice, though, the convenience can evaporate. I spent the whole Scamdemic in China. We had codes to show our ‘Covid’ status but quite frequently, the damn things didn’t work, and sweating in front of a security officer, you’d restart, hoping the code would update. Several times, it didn’t resulting in denied access to the metro or the shopping mall/supermarket. This is on top of the obvious non-technical problems of low battery, dropping the phone and damaging etc.
Mine already has a VPN he says. 🤷♀️ I certainly won’t be uploading my passport or whatever to go on social media. Principle more than anything. Just pisses me off that
We need the legislation full stop. Parents are unwilling to do their job to protect their kids, so unfortunately Bog Brother has to step in. This is the same argument folks had about when seat belts became mandatory, and when smoking was banned in pubs (yes I’m that old). I am not one for government overreach, but unfortunately this is where we‘re at. Let’s revisit this conversation in 10 years.
I understand your frustration. I live in Canada where our current PM is the former head of The Bank of England, and look how he completely messed that up! I am the last one to support a Federal Government, howeverthose countries with a weak government, ie Haiti, Libya, Lebanon, the Congo, are in a much worse situation than we are. No doubt Starmer has to go, fingers crossed that Brits have learned a very painful lesson and a less incompetent boob will replace him. Cheers.
Yes, well l feel trapped because you have to phone to be seen by a doctor at 8 in the morning ,to be told by an alien, what number, you are, to be seen.When you reach one, you get cut off.Chem trails annoy me and how we are not free people we have no choice we have chemical water food and air.I feel sad for the young people who have suffered and God knows how many people they have killed.Politcians are rewarded for the damage they do.Its feeding the birds and stray cats that keep me sane . Julie l am with you in all you say.😊xxx.
What a shit show eh?
Try and get out and ground yourself in nature. The best salve to this craziness x
Well said, Julie.
I’m afraid that I can’t hate starmer anymore than I do already. X
They get it done by whatever means they are able.
Great to hear your thoughts on this. I am still digesting it. I hope it does some good but I'm afraid it may have unforeseen consequences. One thing I'm sure of, Keir Starmer has done this before he gets the boot with an eye on his "legacy". I think it's all about him.
Yes, many (esp more traditional labour voters) will see this as a good thing, I agree.
I had a rather depressing conversation with someone at work... he feels its great to stop kids accessing SM and forever eyes to their phones.. 'Hmm I said, isn't that a parent's job' (while inwardly noting the irony as he himself has his eyes on his phone much of the time!)
Thankfully as you say, many are starting to see the pulleys and levers, just my co-worker today is not one of them x
Most haven’t put two and two together and made the obvious leap that the only way of checking ages is by adults uploading things to prove themselves.
yep my colleague among them unfortunately. I suspect it will drive a number of us off SM (if we are still on it!) ... how will the gov spread their propaganda to those, I wonder?!
To be continued eh?
Starmer is a sociopath with an ideology…a terrible combination and there’s no stopping him.
What’s really concerning is that his Party is allowing him to act unchallenged knowing that they will put themselves into the wilderness and unelectable for decades, if at all. They’ve learnt nothing about what happened to the Tories..
Maybe these awful MPs with no conscience will be quite content with earning £500,000+ for five years. They certainly wouldn’t have been capable of earning this money in any other job!
Yes, it’s not about the kids, it’s about the adults who will also need to prove themselves.
Best thing I’ve seen in forever. It’s like we’re shaking each other by the shoulders, shouting “please wake up! Wake up!!”
Aww thank you so much Cori. That means a lot. Yes it really is happening at great speed now.
Apt metaphor with the screw - depressingly accurate. They put it some of the way in, feign a roll back, then, adopting another tactic, screw it all the way in. So what if we lose a few battles (like with digital ID?), we’ll win the war is the mindset. They are hellbent on creating a digital prison. Starmer et al have to follow a technocratic agenda. This documentary is worth a watch if you haven’t seen it on the technate, https://youtu.be/ZFHHOBiUrkg?si=HbTi_0ifasqKJU5m
Yes, I’m aware of the doc, I watched it last year. Sadly it’s not just Starmer, it’s a global thing. So many understand what is happening now but the convenience tech plays in our lives has made to difficult to shirk and that’s what they count on.
I had watched the doc once before but watched some of it again recently. It helped remind me that we’re dealing with a cult with all its attendant zealotry. Yes, the convenience is why people, especially the younger generation embrace it. In practice, though, the convenience can evaporate. I spent the whole Scamdemic in China. We had codes to show our ‘Covid’ status but quite frequently, the damn things didn’t work, and sweating in front of a security officer, you’d restart, hoping the code would update. Several times, it didn’t resulting in denied access to the metro or the shopping mall/supermarket. This is on top of the obvious non-technical problems of low battery, dropping the phone and damaging etc.
Yes, the conveniences of tech are just that….until they’re not.
Scares me how far all this will go..
Try not to look but still need to know what’s happening 😔
Mine already has a VPN he says. 🤷♀️ I certainly won’t be uploading my passport or whatever to go on social media. Principle more than anything. Just pisses me off that
that should be ‘a thing’.
Nope I won’t be doing that either..
That’s the thing kids know there way around these things
Papers please! Now where have I heard that before?
Indeed. What a shitshow eh? They learn from history alright. They learn how to screw us over even more seamlessly.
This! And like you, I'm feeling increasingly trapped and yes, that feeling also started in 2020.
I remember clear as day, sitting outside on my chair and just feeling so trapped and panicked. One day at a time, eh, Gill
We need the legislation full stop. Parents are unwilling to do their job to protect their kids, so unfortunately Bog Brother has to step in. This is the same argument folks had about when seat belts became mandatory, and when smoking was banned in pubs (yes I’m that old). I am not one for government overreach, but unfortunately this is where we‘re at. Let’s revisit this conversation in 10 years.
If we are still permitted to have them by then!
I don’t like governments full stop, the idea of having people govern us at all feels wrong to me. But others like that system.
Thanks for your take, anyway. Good to have a range of opinions on here.
I understand your frustration. I live in Canada where our current PM is the former head of The Bank of England, and look how he completely messed that up! I am the last one to support a Federal Government, howeverthose countries with a weak government, ie Haiti, Libya, Lebanon, the Congo, are in a much worse situation than we are. No doubt Starmer has to go, fingers crossed that Brits have learned a very painful lesson and a less incompetent boob will replace him. Cheers.